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Amanda Join a Fellowship... Hi there :) Posts: 1,739 Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff Who is YOUR Doctor?: 9 (Christopher Eccleston 05) Current F1 Driver?: Jenson Button	Sherlock Feb 26, 2013 22:47:32 GMT Post by Amanda on Feb 26, 2013 22:47:32 GMT Just thought seeing filming for it begins soon we should have a thread about it! Any thoughts on how Sherlock survived his fall? Prefer Series 1 to 2, loved most of series 1 and only really liked the last one in series 2. Moriarty was alright but a bit too camp in all but the final episode and I don't get why they needed the over blown Irene Adler stuff! Love Molly though
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Anna Staff Posts: 2,716 Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw Who is YOUR Doctor?: 6 (Colin Baker 84-86) Current F1 Driver?: Fernando Alonso	Sherlock Mar 4, 2013 23:48:18 GMT Post by Anna on Mar 4, 2013 23:48:18 GMT They should be filming this month can't wait for a new series missing my John!
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Lucius Join a Fellowship... Posts: 1,502	Sherlock Jul 9, 2013 13:23:08 GMT Post by Lucius on Jul 9, 2013 13:23:08 GMT So any news on whats going on?
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Amanda Join a Fellowship... Hi there :) Posts: 1,739 Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff Who is YOUR Doctor?: 9 (Christopher Eccleston 05) Current F1 Driver?: Jenson Button	Sherlock Aug 4, 2013 23:33:22 GMT Post by Amanda on Aug 4, 2013 23:33:22 GMT Anyone see the 20 second teaser trailer at the end of the last episode the other day? Thought Anna would be right on here to explode about John's moustache!
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Anna Staff Posts: 2,716 Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw Who is YOUR Doctor?: 6 (Colin Baker 84-86) Current F1 Driver?: Fernando Alonso	Sherlock Aug 4, 2013 23:42:49 GMT Post by Anna on Aug 4, 2013 23:42:49 GMT Lets not talk about it... The teaser hasn't got any show footage in it, purely made for the teaser. Made me want to cry! Specially as we haven't had a new episode for forever! Benedict and Martin but also Lestrade! AND MYCROFT!!!!! (and Molly .)
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Anna Staff Posts: 2,716 Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw Who is YOUR Doctor?: 6 (Colin Baker 84-86) Current F1 Driver?: Fernando Alonso	Sherlock Nov 27, 2013 14:19:15 GMT Post by Anna on Nov 27, 2013 14:19:15 GMT Getting closer, apparently it'll be shown 19th January on BBCA so can't be to far off some think 1st January for BBC but we should know within a few weeks (it'll have to be before the 19th or ON the 19th too but I don't think it has same day viewing like Doctor Who! )
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Rick Staff Posts: 379	Sherlock Dec 16, 2013 22:22:22 GMT Post by Rick on Dec 16, 2013 22:22:22 GMT It is the 1st for you guys which seems such a long time for the American's. I mean the series will be finished for you by the time we get it. Stupid really people will find other ways to watch it.
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Lucius Join a Fellowship... Posts: 1,502	Sherlock Dec 16, 2013 22:31:51 GMT Post by Lucius on Dec 16, 2013 22:31:51 GMT It does seem odd though I guess that is the way TV goes these days. They don't make half enough episodes frequently enough not to show them the same time for everyone really.
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Amanda Join a Fellowship... Hi there :) Posts: 1,739 Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff Who is YOUR Doctor?: 9 (Christopher Eccleston 05) Current F1 Driver?: Jenson Button	Sherlock Dec 20, 2013 19:51:24 GMT Post by Amanda on Dec 20, 2013 19:51:24 GMT There will be a minisode on Christmas day Did anyone hear about the BFI screening? The women in charge made Benedict and Martin read slashfiction in front of the audience to take the mick out of fans that write fanfic. Seriously that is just sad
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Anna Staff Posts: 2,716 Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw Who is YOUR Doctor?: 6 (Colin Baker 84-86) Current F1 Driver?: Fernando Alonso	Sherlock Jan 3, 2014 13:33:44 GMT Post by Anna on Jan 3, 2014 13:33:44 GMT What shall I talk about first? The mini episode was quite fun. But the episode was AMAZING and written by Mark Gatiss so it was always bound to be awesome. SPOILER: Click to show I loved that they didn't really give away how he survived, at the end of the day no one was ever going to be happy, so the action fans are happy, the Molly/Moriarty shippers are happy and the clever thought out ploy people are happy! I loved seeing more of Mycroft and Sherlock, I wish they'd have them two together more often and Mycroft deducting was wonderful! Also love that they would play a game of Operation instead of chess! Plus love the use of Benedicts mummy and daddy as Sherlocks mummy and daddy! They both still have it! I kind of liked that Sherlock was still Sherlock but kind of had grown as a person a little whilst being away and that the drama was much more about them lot like the last episode kind of was and not the conspiracy. Can't wait for the next episode!
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Lucius Join a Fellowship... Posts: 1,502	Sherlock Jan 15, 2014 11:14:08 GMT Post by Lucius on Jan 15, 2014 11:14:08 GMT I can't be the only one that was let down by the series? Episode 1 was alright : SPOILER: Click to show I didn't mind the reflection of real life fandom for one episode, it did make the "how did he escape" thing really interesting and it isn't a mystery I care about anymore to be answered properly. I loved the character development and LOVED John to pieces. Episode 2 was too much : SPOILER: Click to show Hated the best mans speech, hated how it ran from one mystery to another but was all solved because it was part of one big case in the end. Felt jumpy and couldn't settle into the episode AT ALL. What I did like was the Stag night. I'll give them that. The ghostly boyfriend piece should have been done longer and in real life or at least away from the wedding, it would have worked better if we were working on the case and Sherlock had to be dragged to the wedding instead of getting flashbacks AT the wedding. And the less said about Episode 3 the better! SPOILER: Click to show It had so many good ideas but it looked like we got Moff's notes on TV. Why was Magnussen so evil? He was blackmailing people yes, he was unpleasant yes, but he could have been SUCH A BRILLIANT bad guy. Why are they bringing back Moriarty? They could have broken the whole Moriarty as to be the bad guy thing and used Magnussen. I don't know who played him but I'm guessing it wouldn't be money a reason they would bring him back. It would have been nice for the series to end on Sherlock losing and Magnussen still out there somewhere doing his thing. When the TVs started going weird I thought it was going to be Magnussen, when I figured it was Moriarty I stopped caring completely. As I said I could forgive the first episode, but I miss the format of one mystery and shit happens to Sherlock and John whilst on that case. I don't know enough about Conan Doyles work to know if they've put too many stories into one pot or not but I just want the background story to be a simple mystery that brings us character moments and development. It wasn't terrible but you only get three episodes so any clunker stands out (Hounds) and this felt like a season of them. What I did like : SPOILER: Click to show Mycroft. Mark Gatiss should win awards for his portrayal. The one thing I detested more then anything : SPOILER: Click to show Mary. Not the actress, she was very likable, just the story. I didn't like how she was a super duper human Sherlock, for me they should have kept her simple and lovely. But they didn't they had to be clever with her. Sherlock should always be about Sherlock/John and if Mary becomes too big a part.... Well it'll ruin the dynamic.
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Anna Staff Posts: 2,716 Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw Who is YOUR Doctor?: 6 (Colin Baker 84-86) Current F1 Driver?: Fernando Alonso	Sherlock Jan 15, 2014 12:44:02 GMT Post by Anna on Jan 15, 2014 12:44:02 GMT I will agree. I felt somewhat... Out of it on Episode 3. I need to re-watch Episode 2 as I had Catherine holding up proceedings so if it felt stop/start to me that was because it actually physically was! I don't even think it has anything to do with putting too many stories together or anything like that. This series seems to be Moff and Gatiss looking at fandom and giving them exactly what they wanted. They want the cute moments and the jokes etc... I kind of felt like possibly because Who had such a big year they were on such a high they wanted everyone to love it. And by the looks of it the vast majority did adore it as much as the last two seasons. Personally I agree that I prefer it when they take the bones of the story and then add on their own meat. I liked Episode 1 because it was different and fun, Episode 2 did start to grate a little on my patience (again that might have been Catherine!) and Episode 3 looked like it could be amazing but it didn't work having that third person. I'll go into depth now behind a spoiler tag! SPOILER: Click to show You are right they've changed that dynamic too much. I loved Mary until Episode 3. Whilst it would have been shocking if Mary had been the one that attempted to hurt CAM they built it up and him up above his station. It could have been as easy as it was in the book, she went to his place to talk it through and he wouldn't listen so she killed him. But no, to get around the big story they made they had to make her special. Couldn't it have been enough that she was John's partner? No she has to be, as you put it, the female human Sherlock. I really didn't like that. CAM could have been amazing. I mean what do you expect from a Mikkelsen? They are both wonderful actors (if you didn't know he's Mads Mikkelsens brother ) and slowly they got this really cool thing going but it wasn't really enough. For us to really care that Sherlock killed him he had to be built up more. I think now that is two "major" bad guys they've ruined. I didn't like Moriarty much either, and I agree that it would have been a nice change to have CAM THE bad guy of Sherlock instead of focusing on Moriarty. Sherlock Holmes never had an nemesis, most characters where there once or twice maybe, mentioned maybe a handful of other times but never seen again, most adaptations take Moriarty and make him THE bad guy because of Reichbach, but it could have worked so well in the modern setting for CAM to be the big boss for a season or two. At least then we'd have SEEN some of the things he could do. End it the way they did just without him dead. Have Sherlock lose. I am not too pleased with the return of Moriarty either. He was dead no matter what they bloody well say so whatever happens next must be good else it'll just ruin the story. That being said I still enjoyed it, was just very different!
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Amanda Join a Fellowship... Hi there :) Posts: 1,739 Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff Who is YOUR Doctor?: 9 (Christopher Eccleston 05) Current F1 Driver?: Jenson Button	Sherlock Jan 15, 2014 15:15:56 GMT Post by Amanda on Jan 15, 2014 15:15:56 GMT I disagree with you both, personally I've found this series to be the best one yet! I've loved all the John/Sherlock stuff and I love the idea of Mary joining them full time. CAM was an interesting villain, possibly underused yes but still wonderfully put together. And I can't wait for next series! SPOILER: Click to show I LOVE Moriarty! It was really an interesting and different take on the series then they've done so far.
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Lucius Join a Fellowship... Posts: 1,502	Sherlock Jan 23, 2014 12:25:17 GMT Post by Lucius on Jan 23, 2014 12:25:17 GMT Jan 15, 2014 15:15:56 GMT Amanda said: I disagree with you both, personally I've found this series to be the best one yet! I've loved all the John/Sherlock stuff and I love the idea of Mary joining them full time. CAM was an interesting villain, possibly underused yes but still wonderfully put together. And I can't wait for next series! SPOILER: Click to show Spoiler I LOVE Moriarty! It was really an interesting and different take on the series then they've done so far. But is there really any point in her joining them at all? I mean OK fair enough BEING there, like she was in episodes 1 and 2. Making sure John goes and gets his "fix" of excitement and all that. For a start by next series we should have ... SPOILER: Click to show Spoiler Baby John So she can hardly traipse around with them on their cases can she? Now please don't get me wrong, personally I LOVED Mary as a character, I think they added too much Sherlock into it by the end of the series but as a character she was great. Really in episode 1 and 2 I was SO happy that she was so good for not only John but Sherlock. Instead by the end of episode 3 I couldn't help but think how toxic that relationship could get and wondering why oh why we need two genius's in the show. If anything this series REALLY truly and honestly missed the Sherlock/John/Lestrade dynamic. It was too much about families and being lovey dovey with each other they missed the point that we GOT all this already. We GOT it in Hound when they had their falling out, we GET it with Lestrade, Molly and Mrs Hudson. So why when it came to Mary they had to slap us in the face with it and carry on with the "this is Sherlock getting over losing John.... But wait he isn't because Mary is as bad as them." Mary will make a great addition but she should not become more of a character then Molly, she should never take time away from a character like Lestrade and most importantly they already had the balance between mystery/human drama perfect they really need to go back towards the original balance because the human drama soaking this series got didn't work quite as well. As for Magnussen. Again don't get me wrong I liked him but it was CRIMINALLY under use of a character that makes me criticizes. Did we REALLY see anything that CAM did that deserved a bullet through the head. Blackmail? So what?! Buying state secrets? A lot of people applauded Edward Snowdon for leaking information in real life so why would any of us really find it good enough for death? Why couldn't Sherlock lose this time and next season have a whole season of seeing the destruction on lives that CAM made? Actually see terrible things not just stupid things. Lars Mikkelsen is just as good as his brother, he deserved better. He could have been such a good bad guy to face off against Sherlock, the intelligent psychopath played quieter. Why we have to end up with .... SPOILER: Click to show Spoiler that stupid over the top version of Moriarty? I mean come on, dark twisted and sadistic bad guy against wet, weird and very unwonderful moron? Missed a step. Wouldn't say the series was poor but it wasn't as good as the last two.
Edited by Lucius [Jan 23, 2014 12:28:04 GMT] Don't think Anna will ever forgive me for spelling a Mikkelsen brother name wrong! Reply Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top

Rick Staff Posts: 379	Sherlock Feb 12, 2014 22:31:47 GMT Post by Rick on Feb 12, 2014 22:31:47 GMT I really didn't like the series at all. Boring, bland, played to the fan element too much and lost all of its charm. Benedict stopped being a wonderful portrayal of Sherlock Holmes and became self aware of being Benedict Cumberbatch being Sherlock Holmes and having a load of fans on the internet. Martin Freeman was fantastic but had terrible stories to work with. Lars Mikkelsen was underused, waste of a great actor. Amanda Abbington was hit and miss, really didn't need her in the series as she just seems to mix all the charm of Mrs Hudson and Molly together. Not anything against the actress who was great the whole time. Too much Mycroft. Like Mycroft but not that much of him. Not enough investigation, focus on cases and the people involved, telling interesting stories about the cases. It was all about developing Sherlock and Watson into what the fans wanted. The last episode was way too patchy, hated the Mary storyline, thought it was handled badly, made John look a right ass and then followed it up by killing off possibly the best thing that happened to the series. And as for the ending... Not going to watch Series 4 until I know that Moriarty isn't overly camp in it and ruins it. He only ever had one good episode before he shot himself in the head, now he's back? They decided to kill off a GREAT bad guy to bring that dweeb back? **** that.
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