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Rick Staff Posts: 379	Heroes Reborn Feb 27, 2014 21:29:25 GMT Post by Rick on Feb 27, 2014 21:29:25 GMT The title says it all. Heroes is being reborn into a limited run series called Heroes Reborn. Thoughts? I liked the original run and hated the way it ended. Hoping for some returning characters but I guess I'd be happy with just another show the same way but with different characters. Hard to let go of characters you already love and had cruelly taken away from you just to have a load more replace them. Though I'm still sore that David Anders character is dead.
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Anna Staff Posts: 2,716 Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw Who is YOUR Doctor?: 6 (Colin Baker 84-86) Current F1 Driver?: Fernando Alonso	Heroes Reborn Feb 28, 2014 14:50:09 GMT Post by Anna on Feb 28, 2014 14:50:09 GMT YES ADAM SHOULD HAVE LIVED FOREVERS AND EVERS AND BEEN THE BAD GUY OF ALL SERIES FOREVERS MORE!!!! Calming down a little. I loved Sylar don't get me wrong, I love Zachary Quinto as well I think he was great as Sylar and he's great in general (though I'm starting to dislike his Spock more and more.) They needed something more though. Adam was a great addition and he didn't need to be part of any bloody thing he could have broken away and just caused mischief, he was the Loki to Heroes. They thought just because Sylar had a large following just setting the series around him not understanding himself, being used and being a pain in everyones asses was enough. It wasn't. Adam was great and David Anders is literally one of the most amazing actors ever. I love Heroes and happy they are doing something more with it. Don't really care if its all new characters as long as the feel is the same.
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Amanda Join a Fellowship... Hi there :) Posts: 1,739 Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff Who is YOUR Doctor?: 9 (Christopher Eccleston 05) Current F1 Driver?: Jenson Button	Heroes Reborn Mar 3, 2014 14:47:51 GMT Post by Amanda on Mar 3, 2014 14:47:51 GMT I don't think a new series of Heroes can erase the amount of terrible story telling we had to deal with the longer the series went on. I liked it still but the biggest flaw in Heroes is that it went nowhere. They twisted not because they had a good story to tell but because they wanted to shock us. The problem being it was something they probably read off of fan forums at the time. To be quite honest they weren't shocking they destroyed the whole essence of characters. Also they were hung up on characters. Sylar was loved and people wanted him to either be loved or hated so they went in the middle and twisted him around and around and around. He was good, then bad, then good, then bad, then good, then bad... Then confused and spent half the series as a character that kept dying and coming back. Now I liked the characters and I found it fun to watch if you didn't want a great deal of sense to prevail. The new series will have to bring in new characters but why have it under the same name? The older characters are done and dusted, they were in series 1 and they got 3 other series to ruin their characters. I'd much rather they brought back Alpha's!
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Anna Staff Posts: 2,716 Hogwarts House: Ravenclaw Who is YOUR Doctor?: 6 (Colin Baker 84-86) Current F1 Driver?: Fernando Alonso	Heroes Reborn Mar 6, 2014 17:48:05 GMT Post by Anna on Mar 6, 2014 17:48:05 GMT I do wish that Alpha's hadn't been axed but it was two different shows. I loved Alpha's because of the dynamics in the team but the big problem is that it was just a cop show. Not that it matters, it was great, and the stories were awesome. But Heroes was different. Heroes really did just have normal people dealing with things and its an aspect of the show that got lost the longer it went on. I'm not saying that the show didn't have problems, it had giant problems (and yes they got attached to characters, I mean how long does it really take to kill off Nathan?!) but it was very different to Alphas. I am slowly working my way back through Heroes and finding it interesting to compare it to my memory. When you haven't got a vested interest in what is going on you can enjoy it much more, the stories didn't always leave it on a high note, sometimes you were left wondering what the hell they were doing but when you don't care and just watch it you see that they really attempted to put a lot of layers down in the characters, all of them were really interesting, the biggest problem was it was VERY comic bookish, in that no one really seemed to run an idea by other people so storylines became disjointed and different people wanted to tell their story whether or not it made sense against the story they told the week before. I also find that I enjoy Peter more and more when I rewatch it. I hated Peter the first time around because he was such a wet blanket. When you know more about the series you kind of respect him a little more.... Well...... Other then in series 2 when he leaves his new girlfriend in the future and seems to forget about it. And that was my biggest problem. Characters got forgotten about. Molly and Matt were great together and then Molly disappeared. It sucked. I do think they wanted to stick to certain types of stories and certain characteristics. Peter and his story and Sylar and his was very repetitive, even if they changed their minds the new story was always very similar to the one before. I think its biggest downfall was not following the anthology style series, having new "Heroes" every series. Series 2 was a mistake (good ideas, marred by the writers strike and then forgotten about in series 3) and the need to make normal people special. That is the thing that Alphas did to right. Normal people were just normal, they weren't all connected in the most stupid ways just so they could all be special. But Alphas was just a different view on the detective angle, Heroes really was one of the reasons Superhero/comic book shows/films got momentum because EVERYONE I knew loved Heroes. I was late to Heroes because I have a "if it sounds over hyped, ignore it" attitude. But EVERYONE ADORED series 1 whether they were superhero/comic book fans or people like my sister who hates fantasy/sci-fi/comic books etc.
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Amanda Join a Fellowship... Hi there :) Posts: 1,739 Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff Who is YOUR Doctor?: 9 (Christopher Eccleston 05) Current F1 Driver?: Jenson Button	Heroes Reborn Mar 6, 2014 18:46:50 GMT Post by Amanda on Mar 6, 2014 18:46:50 GMT I don't think that Alphas and Heroes are that far removed. And there are plenty of characters that I think were ruined. Matt, lets not get started on Matt! His wife disappears and so does his kid but who cares because he's got Molly... Just Molly leaves, I think there is one line about it but that is all. His character didn't so much as develop as change violently between episodes. I don't even know what he wanted in his life really. Claire was great, she was the only believable one. She was a teenager having to go through teenage problems whilst being different. I actually thought she was the best character. Hiro was alright but that was because his timeline jumped over and over again. The last season was a poor one for Hiro though and I can't even remember much other then he got ill, the whole making Ando and his sister fall in love crap annoyed me. Sylar was all over the place. I still can 't remember who he was or whether he was really good, bad or just confused! He was a GREAT bad guy in series one and ruined there after. Isaac was a WONDERFUL character and was killed off before a lot of useless characters. He had so much you could explore but he died off, if they hadn't thought they'd change the cast in series 2 they might have kept him and that is the shame! Some really annoying characters survived but they couldn't resave Isaac. HRG was a great character, they tried SO HARD to ruin him but he was great. Ando was meh and always meh. Adam was a great addition in series 2 but then they killed him. For no reason. I don't even think David Anders wanted a pay rise or anything he seems bummed about not getting to come back. Why oh why couldn't they just get rid of Ali Larter and Adrian Pasdar? WHY?! Mica was alright but then forgotten. Mica's cousin? Was alright but then forgotten. Maya was fine but her brother just disappeared (or did he die or leave?) and then she was forgotten. Suresh was the worst character ever made. Man did they force him down our throats! He was so overbearing and the worst of the characters. He was worse then bad guys. He really was a horrible character and the actor was poor which made it worse and really I couldn't be bothered with it. The old guard were interesting but their story become convuluted. Matt's dad had the ability to be scary and turned into nothing, Angela was one of the only characters (along with Claire and HRG) that constantly was wonderful, Lindermann was interesting but again just left dead.... You get the picture right? The anthology style would have worked but they changed their minds too late in the day. Alphas did it all right. It gave them a purpose, kept them normal and didn't over power / take away powers at the flip of the hat. There are no logical leaps in Heroes, only illogical ones.
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Lucius Join a Fellowship... Posts: 1,502	Heroes Reborn Mar 10, 2014 0:08:37 GMT Post by Lucius on Mar 10, 2014 0:08:37 GMT There are plenty of good things too though. Adam might have been killed off too early, but he WAS a great bad guy. He had a great story, that whole history changing story with Hiro was wonderfully written and David Anders was such an underrated star for his performance. The girl who Hiro dated, the one in the restaurant. That was heartbreaking, even before he went back to save her it was lovely and sweet and you fell in love with the girl long before you got more information on her. She also didn't get ruined by them going back to tell us more about her. Claire was pretty normal for a character. She wouldn't be out of place in most teeny programs but she wasn't unlikable as she was. Just a normal teenager. In fact for a character on the surface I thought I was going to dislike she was strangely likable the whole way through. You understood her motives perfectly at all times. The Petrelli's mother was pretty awesome as a character as well. One of the strongest, specially the strongest of that family. From episode 1 I was always rooting for her in whatever situation she got herself into and no matter what I learnt about her I didn't stop liking her. Sylar might have been turned upside down and inside out a few times over by the series but Zachary Quinto deserved all the praise he got for his character. No matter what U-turn they took with him the adventures we went on, the stories they told all came to life from a wonderful performance. I never once got bored of Sylar no matter how nonsensical his story was. Micah might have been forgotten but you can't just drop him into a list of bad things. He was a great character, the only thing that made whichever triplet his mum was watchable. He was one of the best child actors I've ever seen and his character was very easy to get behind. Characters disappear in series that have a large cast, it is inevitable, especially in a series with characters with abilities. When there isn't an interesting story to tell with those characters it becomes very forced just adding them in, as unique as Micah was there is only so much he can do before he either gets boring because he solves everyone or becomes boring because he never does anything. Micah was used perfectly though his disappearances might have been better explained. I agree with you that no matter what they did to HRG he was always a favourite of mine. I really did believe he loved his family and no matter what he did I always felt that he was just a nice guy. None of what you said really means much in the long terms. So what some of the stories were a bit all over the place, I personally thought they all came together pretty well. The problem is that the Petrelli's mum and all that told so many lies and played games with so many people that it was hard to tell truth from lies. It was also cut too soon, another series might have tied some of these loose questions up. I would have hated them to do a anthology series thing, I loved the characters. It makes it difficult to add new characters so obviously some characters would be lost. It never bothered me. It never really honestly mattered. There were only a few instances that bothered me but they were with characters I couldn't care less about. I welcome a new series though I'm sad that it'll be a limited run with probably little to do with the original. I know that is most people's dream and most people probably don't want to see the old cast return but I was dying to know what happened after the finale and knowing it is coming back but probably won't tell us what happened to all the characters I love is a little annoying. Saying that I can't wait.
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