I'm still not happy with it.



It is totally and utterly stupid!

There is no intelligent drama anymore its just smug meta story telling.

When the finger finally pointed at it was the ONLY time it made sense in weeks!

Gods yes! I'm so happy to see you share my view! This was one of the freshest stories on TV lately but right now it has let me down a lot.

It really is Will that is winding me up though, his "normal" character you'd think would be early season one so what he's doing now is weird. And yet everyone seems to believe his mad ramblings over those of a gentleman who has done nothing wrong at all. In fact in the lastest ramblings (well a few episodes back) if there were murders abound Hannibal would be serving them up. Firstly the food came back positive for ANIMAL meat not humans and secondly he had a alibi when, was it Gideon being kidnapped? Happened.

He is freakin' annoying!

What do you mean by character development?!

He hasn't developed unless you mean somewhere between season one and two he developed a whole anti-personality.

No matter how ill Will Graham was the man you saw was Will Graham, he went from being a empath with a problem to a smug, smarmy fool. What is with the constant metaphors? Or the fact that no matter how little proof he has he's insistent on his beliefs? Why is he playing games with Hannibal?

This show is not called The Adventures of Will Graham it is called HANNIBAL and not only has the title character had to play second fiddle to the supporting cast he's also had the rough share of the script. The intelligent scripts can still be glimpsed at but they are far and few between. Instead we get a load of pouncing around by Will Graham who has slowly and surely became much more unlikable as the season progresses. No longer do you want Will to win you want him gutted! I can't wait for Red Dragon and I can't wait for what happens after that and I'm hoping that they replace Clarice and have that story because I can not and I really mean CAN NOT put up with five (proposed) seasons of The Will Graham Metaphor show.

Not only that but they are WASTING Mads Mikkelsen. Baring in mind the man loves the show, he's spending so much time away from his family to film it and he is SOOOO talented and half the time he's being replaced by that stupid antlered thing they have. I mean in a second Mads can have twenty different emotions pass through his face, subtle but as clear as daylight to you watching at home. Instead of playing on this, playing on the fact that they'd introduced us to this wonderfully clever and charming man and made us love him despite the fact we know he's a serial killer cannibal we get the slowly increasingly more annoying Will Graham.

For Season three I want it to be Hannibal centric and I want as little Will Graham as possible. I love Alana but I hope a whole load of the cast get killed off or just leave so that we get the bare bones of the Will Graham love train. Most of all I want Will/Hannibal scenes to STOP! They were wonderful, dramatic, intense and witty in season one now they are a pain to sit through.

I do like the Vergers though.

I got to the end of my wits with this series half way through, much for the same reasons as have been stated.

The story has made little sense, every character has to be talking about Will Graham else they aren't in the episodes, everyone believes Will without a shred of evidence, characters have gone from behaving one way to doing a total U-turn.

I have had no real need to watch this season live, it has been one big let down. I don't know why they went in the direction they did but it seems they've totally bypassed the real Red Dragon story and the Tooth Fairy completely to give Will the best lines. They ruined using Dolarhyde's death to Freddie by "faking" that death, I thought he was planning on DOING Red Dragon not gutting it and giving all the cool Dolarhyde AND ******* HANNIBALS lines to Will.

They have wasted Mads Mikkelsen by making his Hannibal look stupid.

Thing is Will Graham was a tragic hero, he isn't know. Why would he be? He's just as bad as Hannibal. And the most horrible thing is that they've had to bring Alana down with it all. I think the series has let itself down more then anything.

Of course I'll keep watching Season 3 in the hopes that it'll get better.

The Vergers have been a breath of fresh air. Why did they introduce them so late in the season? Or rush their story in general?

I agree with this. I mean I'm not saying anyone should not enjoy it just because I've found the season patchy, but you can hardly line them up to the originals. Hannibal maybe, whilst changing Hannibal slightly Mads is still working to the template of a proper Hannibal.

Will Graham isn't just different from the book version of him or any of the film versions, he's a totally different person from the first series! Yes alright being caught in this type of situation might make you a bit upset but lets face it. He had no proof that Hannibal did anything, its just a good way to gloss over having any real revel having him "remember" things all of a sudden, and whether he thought Hannibal was a killer or not is immaterial. HE KILLED AND ATE PEOPLE! Even when he believed Hannibal was serving him up human on the side HE WENT BACK FOR MORE! He put (yes WILL GRAHAM PUT) the Vergers in the position they were in, because without Will Graham the story changes ever so slightly.

Yes it was interesting that they made Will challenge Hannibal. But I don't for one second believe it was a real challenge, Hannibal seems to shake him off like a little pet "aww Will is trying to impress me by catching me by being just as cold and calculating as I am. Better give him a treat and tell him something about me."

Even in the penultimate episode (I haven't seen the finale yet, that is how bad its gotten to me!) or the episode before that Jack Crawford ADMITTED that he had no evidence, that Will had not given him one shred to prove this. I believe :



90% of the season felt like people just believing Will because why would Will lie? Why would he have done any of these horrible things?

But whilst as a audience THAT WAS HOW WE FELT IN SEASON ONE! That feeling got lost when WILL BECAME A PSYCHO HIMSELF! 

Hugh Dancy is a superb actor, they all are, they've all acted perfectly what they've been given, the cast is a diamond cast!

And I'm not even saying Fuller has written a load of shit, he hasn't, in one way it is a wonderfully scripted dramatic dance between two wonderful leads BUT it failed to give any logical train of thought.

People moan about the plot holes in Moffat's Who...... They'd have a field day with this season!

And I won't WON'T be watching Season Three because it is yet another different story being told. I just didn't like the way this story evolved, yes the story was interesting but we didn't get to see the FBI side being intelligent, we didn't get to see Hannibal lose his cool, we didn't get any flow like in season one. Everything went bipolar. One second yes the next no, one minute good the next bad. It'll get it back no doubt in season three and beyond but they missed some of the magic of season one this time out.

Now I'm sure you are just saying the opposite of us to be a pain.

Hannibal is so much more then a cannibal that eats rude people. In the books he's just as fleshed out and interesting as Will ever was. You know this whether or not you've read the books and I know you know this. And this is why I think you are just being a pain.

There DOES need to be a reason why a whole swathe of intelligent characters will suddenly turn their backs on solid evidence and take the word of someone who not only has a strange ability (which he does in the show not in the book) but who is actually mental (thanks to his illness.) Let alone then turn their sights on someone like Hannibal who is so highly thought of in his community. Hannibal did nothing other then get blamed for things they had proof that Will did.

The script was never written to get Will off the hook intelligently, it came into the season with a wink and a nudge and proceeded to tell no kind of real story at all. In the real world no police officer in their right mind would allow Will to do what he's done, let alone stage a death and all the shit that Jack has let pass. Yeah we aren't in the real world but then lets just say **** it to reality completely and just have Will magically solve the worlds problems.

The character they had to focus on didn't have to be one person. That is a decision that Fuller made. As with Anna I don't really care too much because the story is still something interesting enough to follow but they wasted a season. They had the Vergers who could have been introduced so much earlier and had a proper season of ghastliness together, instead their stories were rushed in at the end. The guy at the beginning would have made a great Buffalo Bill replacement but no he was gone within an episode and instead of doing what they did the season before they just kind of let him go off with a whimper. They could have developed everyone, they could have had Hannibal, Jack, Katz, Alana, Chilton.... The whole cast GO ONE EPISODE WITHOUT MENTIONING WILL! Every single conversation was about Will, that isn't character development that is smashing people over the head with a character until they are fed up.

Personally I think its wrong that Dancy is getting nominations and Mikkelsen isn't because Mads has been far superior then the rest of the cast all season long.