Firstly, this week has gone so fast I forgot about the other debate, shame only me and Pete answered .

Secondly the funny thing is I was just about to write a blog post about this exact topic actually no I wasn't I was going to carry on a draft about it that I've been writing for a few weeks but can't be bothered and might delete it.

All I can say is, Margaret. The entitlement of that women was astounding! It was like everyone in F1 should fall over themselves to give him a seat, cripple his team mate if they dare to be better, get more attention or be *shock horror* liked as much or more then him and claim everyone is a pay driver, with her eyes full of tears, whilst forgetting that Bruno spent most of his time LOOKING for sponsors.

Ohhh and the changing of the mind from being the biggest Fernando Alonso fan to hating him for some obscene reason, I think it was he told some photographers/reporters to shove off when he was on holiday and as that meant that she didn't get half naked photos of him when he was trying to relax he was such a horrid man! Even though you know he's paid to drive a car not have his life documented by idiots.

Doctor Who nerds fade into nothingness when it comes to the force of Margaret!

Yeah you are right there.

To answer the question, the entitlement is silly. A show will be produced if it is good in the ratings and getting good reviews. Just because it is popular does not mean that the makers of said show have to make x amount of episodes every year. Just because it has a fan base it doesn't mean they have to cater to the fans. Just because its celebrating an anniversary it doesn't mean that they have to do everything and more for above fans. And most importantly no matter what they are doing THEY DO NOT HAVE TO TELL US A DAMN THING!

The thing is (using the Doctor Who fans at the moment as an example) we don't know anything. We've had a "confirmation" via flyer at a toy show. Now every single word of Moff and anyone else is being looked at under a microscope. No amount of statements or announcements will calm them down and when we did get the confirmation of when the show airs and a new website the fans claimed it as the BBC trying to "distract" them from the real problem of how they are being shafted by the BBC and Moff.

Added on top of that they are just bitching and moaning about everything under the sun and already started the whole RTD wouldn't do this to us crap...... Just blah!

Fans are entitled to their opinion as everyone is on all counts. But no one is entitled to the ins and outs of anything.

As for sports it usually is a competitive thing. Even if the fan isn't competitive they are a fan because they are passionate. Maybe using the word entitled is wrong with Margaret. She did seem to feel that Bruno was ENTITLED to a seat, going on the fact that she liked him and believed in him. She felt that anyone she thought as a better driver was ENTITLED to a F1 seat whether others thought they were better or not. She felt entitled for team bosses to explain everything and anything to her, but again she was entitled to the opinion that Bruno should get a seat or that her fav drivers deserved a seat, and she was entitled to the wrong opinion that Ross Brawn or anyone else should write to her in person about their decisions but not actually entitled to much other then her opinion.

Of course some silly bugger will come along and start dissecting the word entitled.

For the first, yes, as long as its polite and debated in a friendly manner. Of course if I say I like the color purple and think blue is over rated because its over used and you are a fan of blue but think otherwise and have facts to prove it you can say that my opinion is wrong as blue has been used less then purple and is actually bottom of the opinion polls. It wouldn't change how I feel but it also won't piss me off if you say it in a polite and informative way. If you just call me a load of names and act superior to me that isn't anything to do with entitlement that is just you being a dick .

Again same as above. You are entitled to be upset as that is your own feeling and no one can say you can't be. But then I also worry about some people who make out that not being told exactly when blue is going to be on TV in 10 years time down to the second is the most evil act of some tyrant who hates them. The BBC is very secretive (in ways) and you are lucky to get such early announcements from them. But not being told everything that goes into making blue the thing you love is alright, you aren't entitled to know how they make blue.



I think we need to separate it thought. Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion, feeling or to voice their opinions.

But you are not entitled to demand to know everything or be told everything or be apologized because your expectations aren't lived up to.

You are not entitled to get what you want, but you are entitled to be pissed off if you think you're getting less then you should.

I guess they are entitled to whatever they feel entitled to be entitled about. To take away their entitlement to be entitled to whatever it is they are entitled to you are no longer entitled to be entitled to tell them what to be entitled too.

Or in other words what Rick said.

Theres entitlement and then theres ENTITLEMENT.

And here comes Lucius telling us he's entitled to stop our entitlement of a thread by saying there is no point for our entitled round about discussion!

What an entitled gentleman you are!

Entitled

Well yes, it goes without saying that EVERYONE can FEEL entitled, it doesn't mean they'll get anything. I feel entitled for you to give me money ain't gonna happen is it?